Who is Lucifer??

The following article i found in a religious forum. The autors name : gnosis. I like his approach to the topic, so i like to share hes view with you.

I’m not agree with him in two points: he says that in the Quran, Adam and Eva are in a heavenly abode, not on earth. From a quranic point of view however we can see, that the garden was on earth. Please read

http://quransmessage.com/articles/adam%20and%20jannah%20FM3.htm

Other point: I’m not agree with the autor’s conclusion, that Lucifer= Allah, because Allah in the Quran is mentioned as Light. The light as source and lucifer is the light-bearer. Lucifer means light-bearer, he is the one who brings the light to the people. The sender from the Light is Allah. Lucifer is a title – every messenger from Allah is a Lucifer. Satan (shaitan in Arabic) is not Lucifer. This is an important point. We found the name Lucifer only in the Bible. In the Quran it is not Lucifer who speaks with Adam and Eva – it is Satan. I changed this two points – so what you read is my point of view.

Definitions :

Lucifer – noun – Latin = „light bearer“                an-Nur – „The Light“ = One of the 99 names of Allah 

God = Allah = the one God

„Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His Light is a niche wherein is a lamp— the lamp is in a glass, the glass as it were a glittering star— lit from a blessed olive tree, neither eastern nor western, whose oil almost lights up, though fire should not touch it. Light upon light. Allah guides to His Light whomever He wishes. Allah draws parables for mankind, and Allah has knowledge of all things.“ – al-Qur’an 24:35

In symbology, light is always represented by divine presence, knowledge, and truth. Therefore, to bear or give light means to give knowledge and presence of the divine. Lucifer then is just that, the „knowledge bearer“. So is Lucifer a messenger, who brings the light from Allah.

Refuting The Christian View of Lucifer – Satan is not Lucifer

The Christian view of Lucifer as being an evil or fallen angel and even Satan himself is a gross corruption that has been propagated over the years due to people’s lack of understanding and the Christian leaders teaching misinformation. Lucifer is not evil nor Satan, or the Shaytan rather. Iblis is the Shaytan, as according to the Qur’an. Iblis is never called Lucifer (I know that Lucifer is Latin and the Qur’an is Arabic but there’s still not an equivalent given for Lucifer in Arabic) nor is Iblis an angel, let alone a fallen angel.

Meaning of Satan:

Satan (Shaytan) means „the opposer“. This concept goes back to Ancient Kemet (Egypt) to the divinity Set. Set was the divinity of opposition. While Set would be an opposer to Heru (Horus), in the Ancient Egyptian’s understanding he was not an evil deity. Set simply symbolized all opposing forces, which were necessary forces in the universe.
Satan is therefore not a proper name but a title. It is a name given to one opposing you. When your enemies come to oppress you, they are opposing you; therefore they are Shaytans to you. You are opposing them by defending yourself, in their eyes you are a Shaytan. Every human can become a ‚Shaytan‘.

Our fraud governments are „Set“anic (Shaytanic) for the way they treat the masses and the planet. Iblis however is a specific Shaytan.

The story of Adam and Eve

The stories of Adam and Eve as told in the Qur’an and Bible are significantly different in their deeper meanings.

The biblical story

starts with Adam and Eve being placed on Earth and being told by the biblical god YHWH not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. YHWH claims that eating from the tree of KNOWLEDGE will cause Adam and Eve to die. The serpent however, tells Adam and Eve that they surely won’t die, but rather become like YHWH. When they do eat from the tree, they do not die but rather their eyes are opened. When YHWH finds out they ate from the tree, YHWH acts out in jealousy and becomes angry and curses his creation and even admits that Adam and Eve have become like him (Genesis 3:22-24). Adam and Eve then spend the rest of their lives outside the garden away from this tree. Notice how they did not die though when they ate the fruit like YHWH said they would. All of this also takes place in the physical realm, the garden here on earth.

What we learn from the Biblical version of the tale is:

• YHWH lied to Adam and Eve and concealed the truth of the true nature of the tree of KNOWLEDGE, where the serpent told them the truth.
• the serpent didn’t force Adam and Eve to eat from the tree, nor did he tempt them. He simply told them the true nature of the fruit and let them decide what to do.
• The serpent gave Adam and Eve a CHOICE.
• YHWH however used FEAR and DECEPTION to prevent Adam and Eve from eating from the tree and to submit to him blindly.
• YHWH didn’t give them a choice, he wanted blind submission. When they didn’t blindly submit to him, he cursed them and prevented them from life.
  Now applying this story to real life, YHWH prevented Adam and Eve from KNOWLEDGE and kept them blind and ignorant.

So, can we say, that YHWH has characteristics from God (Allah)? God he grant knowledge to Adam, who stands for all human. God never want that the believers followed him blind and ignorant, no the opposite is fact: The real believer should learn and not accept anything wthout to prove it.

Who does opresse the people today? 

Sure not God – but : Does not „big brother“ keep the masses blind and ignorant while holding knowledge from them? And when certain ones gain knowledge and don’t submit to big brother, does he not then try to keep you away from life? Does not big brother use fear and lies to control the masses?

What was the role from the serpent?

The serpent however rebelled and gave the KNOWLEDGE to Adam and Eve. This is like someone today who rebels against this world system and informs the masses of the true nature and intent of their corrupt government. Of course to “big brother”, someone doing such a thing is an enemy. That is why the serpent is called Set-an. So the serpent is not called „Satan“ because it is evil or did anything wrong, but rather because it is an enemy to YHWH, in the sense that a truth speaker is an enemy or a „terrorist“ to today’s corrupt governments or „big brother“.
The Christians over time started to call the serpent „Lucifer“

Again however, Lucifer is not a proper name but a title, Lucifer meaning „light bearer“, He brought the light to Adam as a messenger. He is enlightet, has the ‚gnosis‘ or ‚knowledge‘ ,’wisdom‘ from Allah. The serpent is the one responsible for giving the „gnosis“ or knowledge to Adam and Eve.(remember, this only in the biblical tale) Therefore, he was their „light bearer“ or Lucifer. This is the reason Satan and Lucifer are always equated as being the same being, but again these are just titles. This is why in many cultures the serpent is not a symbol of anything evil at all, but rather a symbol of knowledge and wisdom. The Gnostics call the serpent Sophia, which means wisdom and is also feminine because the entire subject deals with the suppression of the divine feminine principle as well (I can go into detail about that later if you wish me to). Sophia was a revealer of gnosis who came from the true „god“, the great Mother-Father who is ultimately above simply being a god, which is ultimately Allah.

God does not keep man ignorant nor prevents man from knowledge, but rather sends knowledge to man as guidance:

“Certainly, We have brought to them a Book (the Quran) which We have explained in detail with knowledge, – a guidance and a mercy to a people who believe.” – al-Qur’an 7:52
“And in their footsteps, We sent ‚Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), confirming the Taurat (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was GUIDANCE and LIGHT and confirmation of the Taurat (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqun (the pious)” – al-Qur’an 5:46
Now the Quranic version of the tale for clarity:

First Allah announces He is creating Adam. When He does create Adam, He creates Adam and give him ‚the Names from all things‘ (in the bible states ‚create him in His image‘) and tells all to prostrate to Adam. All do except for Iblis, who is jealous of Adam.

Remember who acted with jealousy in the biblical tale?

Adam is then placed in paradise where Allah tells Adam to avoid the tree of Life. Satan then appears to Adam and causes Adam to eat from the tree. In the Quranic version there is no serpent. Also there is no mention of the whisperers name, the Quran speaks with the title only: Satan (the opposer).

Satan whispers for the two- in the Quran we found that the two are guilty, not Eva – the two together listen to Satan and eat from the tree. Allah sees their mistake and sends them out of the garden.

Allah however is fully aware of what Adam has done but does not act in a vengeful way, but rather forgives Adam and clothes him.

The major differences:

• the name of the tree. It is not the tree of KNOWLEDGE; it is the tree of LIFE (to be unmortal). Since we are dealing with the spiritual sense, Allah was not trying to keep Adam away from knowledge
• The bible mention a serpent – in the Quranic story there is no serpent
• The serpent brings no evil in the bible, it brings knowledge. In the Quran we found only Satan who lied and lies always, he is evil – because he said to Adam and Eva they will become immortal, when they eat from the tree.
• Also, the way Allah reacted to what Adam had done is totally different. He does not get angry and vengeful, but forgives Adam. Allah had full knowledge and preordained that Adam would eat from the tree so Adam being sent out from this state of Peace and Freedom was not a punishment, not so in the Bible.
• In the Quran we see that it was Allah’s plan from the beginning: He announced that he was creating Adam to be viceroy on Earth.
• Allah then makes Adam aware that he would send him guidance.

  “(Allah) said: ‘Get you down, both of you, together, some of you are an enemy to some others. Then if there comes to you guidance from Me, then whoever follows My Guidance shall neither go astray, nor fall into distress and misery.’” – al-Qur’an 20:123

The serpent- Lucifer- we found only in the bible

Now back to the biblical story, the serpent who is called Sophia by the Gnostics would be a clear example of Allah’s light and guidance being sent down to mankind on Earth in order to help against the oppression of this man made system that keeps the masses ignorant and expects blind submission through fear and deception and in which man or more specifically “the State” is as „god“ (the Jewish concept of YHWH, whom the Gnostics called the demiurge or “false god”, known in the modern day as “big brother”).

To briefly explain the difference between the concept of YHWH and the concept of Allah, the concept of YHWH is one who plays a flawed „big brother“ figure while the concept of Allah is one who is in full control of everything good and/or evil, is loving and forgiving, and wants to give you the guidance and knowledge (or gnosis) to illuminate the light inside you. The Quranic version of the tale is the correct version of the story and the correct concept of the Most High, while the Biblical version is of a big brother being who its writers called YHWH who is ultimately a concepted entity like big brother who aides in the authors hidden agenda.

We must ask ourself: why and when became Lucifer a Synonym for Satan? And who want the people to believe that Lucifer = Satan = good ???

We found a lot of confusion. This to become frustrated and to turn off from God.

Jesus as all messengers is a Light-bearer:

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, ‘I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.’” – John 8:12
Isa was not sent by YHWH but rather sent by the same One (Elohim) that had sent the serpent to Adam and Eve in the garden (in the biblical story).

Isa (pbuh) said himself that the one he called “Father” was not the same as the Jew’s god:
“I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father. ‘Abraham is our father,’ they answered. ‘If you were Abraham’s children,’ said Jesus, ‘then you would do what Abraham did. As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. You are doing the works of your own father.’ ‘We are not illegitimate children,’ they protested. ‘The only Father we have is God himself.’

Jesus said to them, ‘If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” – John 8:38-47 (NIV)

Those verses makes it clear that Isa (pbuh) was not sent by the one whom the Jews worshipped called YHWH, who he called the devil, but was sent by the True God whom the Jews had not known.

Yeshua is not = Isa

Many believe that the name “Yeshua” is the Hebrew name and proper name is Isa (pbuh) that means “YHWH saves”, which would in turn mean Isa (pbuh) was sent by YHWH, but this is false.
Taken from http://www.answering-christianity.com/name_of_jesus.htm :

Interestingly, the word „Yeshua“ (meaning „safety“ in the Hebrew language), whom Christians attempt to proselytize their theories of a „man-god“ Jesus by saying this name of his meant „Salvation“, does not have a static definition of „Salvation“ but also means „Saved“.
Another problem is that the type of „safety“ which „yasha`“ refers to is in a very worldly sense, and mostly having to do with being saved from the hands of Israel’s worldly enemies. Every single usage of „yasha`“ in the Bible has to do with warfare and violence. There is not a single reference to deliverance from sin, or salvation of the ethereal soul. It only refers to salvation of the physical body and life.” Jesus spoke Aramaic. Thus, the New Testament would have to be dependent upon it. Much of the Old Testament was in Aramaic as well, and the earliest Christian societies throughout Arabia from Palestine, to Syria, to Nabataea spoke Aramaic. So what is Jesus‘ name in Aramaic?
„EESHO M’SHEEKHA“ meaning Jesus the Messiah.

– „Eesho M’sheekha“ in Syriac. Syriac is a late variant of Aramaic widespread in Christendom, thus coined „Christian Aramaic“.
– „Eesho M’sheekha“ in Aramaic, taken directly from the „Peshitta“. The „Peshitta“ is the Aramaic New Testament and closely resembles the language of Jesus.
Thus, Jesus would have even called himself „Eesho“ or more specifically „`Eesaa“ since the Northern Palestinian Jews pronounced the letter „shin“ as „seen“.
•The word „`EESA“ ( ) in the Qur’an comes from „`EESHO“ ( ) in Aramaic, a language which predates Hebrew by several hundred years and never had any etymological ties with the Hebrew derivative „YESHUA“ ( ) or even the word „E’SAU“ ( )
•Since the language Jesus (pbuh) spoke and taught was Aramaic, the Qur’an have accurately taken his name in Aramaic and not the Hebrew derivative, „YESHUA“ ( )
•The name „YASO’A“ ( ) for Jesus (pbuh) in the Arabic Bible is merely a transliteration of the Hebrew name „YESHUA“ ( ) and is therefore fallacious to claim that this is the correct Arabic name of Jesus (pbuh) since as originally said, Hebrew is not Jesus‘ native tongue. Therefore, the Noble Verses which clearly states that the Qur’an is in pure Arabic remains unchallenged.
I would recommend reading the entire article about Isa’s (pbuh) proper name here: http://www.answering-christianity.com/name_of_jesus.htm

Apocrypes speaks about the truth Isa

The Gnostics spoke the truth of the Prophet Isa (pbuh) and were his true followers and it was for this reason why the Catholic Church labeled them heretics and violently persecuted them and destroyed many of their scriptures and gospels, and replaced them with gospels that deceived the masses into believing that YHWH was the god of Isa (pbuh). The truth however can still be found in the four gospels today by reading them with a correct understanding rather than the indoctrinated teachings of the Christian/Catholic Church, along with reading the Gnostic gospels and scriptures that did survive (which can be found in the Gnostic Bible – http://www.amazon.com/Gnostic-Bible-Revised-Expanded/dp/1590306317/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325953906&sr=8-2 )

I’m sure many of you are well aware of the corruption and falsehood of the Catholic Church, and that it was only established as a means of controlling the masses (hence the State being god, the Catholic Church being agents of YHWH and the disbelieving Jews), so it should be fairly easy to see the hidden agenda behind the Catholic Church labeling the Gnostics as heretics and establishing the worship of Prophet Isa (pbuh) as god, leading to shirk.

While the Christians/Catholics believe that Isa (pbuh) was crucified on the cross, both the Gnostics and Muslims and the Qur’an are in agreement that this did not happen.
“And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We killed Messiah ‚Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,’ – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‚Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‚Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ] But Allah raised him [‚Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.” – al-Qur’an 4:157-158

In the Muslim view, Isa (pbuh) was a mortal man who was the living Word of Allah sent to mankind for guidance. This is equivalent to the Gnostics view of Isa (pbuh) being a mortal man who brought “gnosis” (knowledge / the Word of Allah) to mankind for guidance. Neither view alludes to Isa (pbuh) being sent to Earth as a human sacrifice to YHWH for the forgiveness of sins. To think that Allah would demand a human sacrifice for forgiveness is ludicrous to both the Muslim and the Gnostic.

In conclusion

Allah is the light and Lucifer is a title, not a proper name and means the bringer of light. So all the messengers are Lucifers, bringer of light and wisdom. Over time, those who serve YHWH (“big brother”, the State) changed the original names, meanings and understandings to deceive the masses in order to control them and have the masses submit to them, the State. They took what was truly good and demonized the good so that the masses would turn away from the good and believe what the State presents to them is truly good, when it is the State that produces that which is actually evil. They change the meanings of names and  changes the scriptures to confuse the people. They create Lucifer = Satan. Interestingly enough, the Gospel of Phillip (another Gnostic gospel) even reveals this truth:

“The rulers wanted to fool us, since they saw we were connected with the good. They took the names of the good and gave them to the not good so with names they could trick and rope us to the not good. As though doing us a favor, they took names from the not good and placed them on the good. They knew what they were doing. They wanted to grab those of us who were free and make us eternal slaves.”

All praise is due to Allah for keeping His promise to send mankind guidance to make clear the truth from the falsehood.